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[amitverma1113]

Dear All,

I am downloading freeleech torrents and seeding them in order to get my ratio and GB upload count to higher level.

when i see freeleech torrent on the website they show like this having leechers so many.

and other image is of my utorrent.

i have highlighted 1st and 3rd torrent file in 2nd image which is showed in 3rd and 1st position in 1st image.

My question is this.

Why i cannot getting leechers. so that they download from my PC also. even after two days of seeding not even 100kb is not being uploaded. while on the website these torrents have most downloaded and leechers.

Am i missing something.

Please guide. Thanks

PS: Also tell me how to choose freeleech torrent so that it can also upload data and not just sitting idle keep seeding and not uploading anything.

 

[Mr. Spacely]

Just download and seed. Will not affect your ratio. Seed indefinitely and collect bonus points.

 

[TheHarperdragon]

I don't see a problem - you are seeding merrily away (keep it up) and if someone wants what you have, they will add it.

 

[amitverma1113]

If people are downloading these torrents and torrent are peer to peer connection type and website is showing continuous downloading (so many leechers) of this torrent.

why not even a single byte upload from my system.

ALso, does seeting a lot of torrents (in my case 21 seeding currently) affects harddisk.

 

[canton]

i appreciate your questions as i wonder similarly.

there are popular torrents i seed but get no leechers and no upload bytes credit.
and there are also popular releases where i get fair share of leechers and gain
considerable upload credits.

i can only *guess* why: maybe the peer to peer system looks for connections which
are most efficient so data can move around faster? and maybe such efficiency
depends on our geographical location relative to peers, our torrent client setup,
our internet service provider, and our computer itself, etc?

let's hope some tech gurus here chance upon us to shed the light.

meantime it's okay. even if my seeds don't attract leechers and don't gain upload
credits, i am sure of one thing: just by leaving my inactive torrents *open* they
nevertheless accumulate seeding bonus points automatically!

good luck amitverma.

 

[choli]

If people are downloading these torrents and torrent are peer to peer connection type and website is showing continuous downloading (so many leechers) of this torrent.

why not even a single byte upload from my system.

ALso, does seeting a lot of torrents (in my case 21 seeding currently) affects harddisk.

I think your port isn't forwarded..

You need to forward your port.
So forward your port.

 

[Megaraider]

i can only *guess* why: maybe the peer to peer system looks for connections which
are most efficient so data can move around faster? and maybe such efficiency
depends on our geographical location relative to peers, our torrent client setup,
our internet service provider, and our computer itself, etc?

Yes, track server will announce all but it's up to the torrent client to decide (mostly based on its own settings).

I think your port isn't forwarded..
You need to forward your port.
So forward your port.

Yes, see a similar thread here: https://www.teamos.xyz/threads/no-upload-and-no-open-forwarded-ports.187473/

 

[L3GI0N5]

Best answer to this issue is get yourself Debrid-Link, you wont be sorry... sometimes it can be NAT issue with your ISP service provider, blocking your incoming ports to protect you from probable risky business.
I have learnt this way its better and easier with them as I also do struggle with people not leeching from me...

 

[amitverma1113]

i appreciate your questions as i wonder similarly.

there are popular torrents i seed but get no leechers and no upload bytes credit.
and there are also popular releases where i get fair share of leechers and gain
considerable upload credits.

i can only *guess* why: maybe the peer to peer system looks for connections which
are most efficient so data can move around faster? and maybe such efficiency
depends on our geographical location relative to peers, our torrent client setup,
our internet service provider, and our computer itself, etc?

let's hope some tech gurus here chance upon us to shed the light.

meantime it's okay. even if my seeds don't attract leechers and don't gain upload
credits, i am sure of one thing: just by leaving my inactive torrents *open* they
nevertheless accumulate seeding bonus points automatically!

good luck amitverma.

Well i live in a well Internet connected city having 100mbps download and 100 upload speed. as well i have a core i5 7th gen cpu.

i think internet speed is sufficient as other torrents get uploaded but some dont

 

[MniawY]

why not even a single byte upload from my system.

You Just want To Read More To Have Better Vision About '' What Torrent is ''
when you've free time, just have a look on what @Cyler Wrote Here

https://www.teamos.xyz/threads/info-about-torrents-ratio-and-other-related-subjects.144779/

Well i live in a well Internet connected city having 100mbps download and 100 upload speed. as well i have a core i5 7th gen cpu.

i think internet speed is sufficient as other torrents get uploaded but some dont

Check your Inbox sir @amitverma1113

 

[amitverma1113]

I think your port isn't forwarded..

You need to forward your port.
So forward your port.

I am sharing full torrent image.

Please tell if port isn,t forwarded then why some torrents upload data and some dont.

check the last torrent as it uploaded a big 4.75gb data.

 

[MniawY]

Please tell if port isn,t forwarded then why some torrents upload data and some dont.

maybe those you can't upload with, might have seedboxes or many people who have stronger connections than you, or maybe Torrent is Fully Standing and no one more will download !,i told you, you just need to read more !

https://www.teamos.xyz/threads/info-about-torrents-ratio-and-other-related-subjects.144779/

 

[Prasant Majhi]

First of all GOOD WORK for the SEEDING you are absolutely contributing towards the community, do not worry about the leechers just keep seeding @amitverma1113

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[fantom]

I am sharing full torrent image.

Please tell if port isn,t forwarded then why some torrents upload data and some dont.

check the last torrent as it uploaded a big 4.75gb data.

Most members do not have open port, and, unfortunately, because many ISP start to use NAT behind NAT cant open/forward it! That's made problem with making swarm and 2 clients with no open port can't communicate!
Basically, that means no seed/leach between them!
I have open port You don`t = I can download/upload from/to You... and that is reason why from time to time You see upload/seed from You to other!

If people are downloading these torrents and torrent are peer to peer connection type and website is showing continuous downloading (so many leechers) of this torrent.

why not even a single byte upload from my system.

ALso, does seeting a lot of torrents (in my case 21 seeding currently) affects harddisk.

Do not worry about numbers of torrent on seed! Your net speed allowed You much higher numbers! I have it 4.4k+ and no problems at all!
For the HD, especially if its not SSD, keep in mind that is a good habit to have it defragmented!

 

[Chuck]

@amitverma1113
Read these tutorials:

Tutorials - So You Think Your Stats Are Wrong

It is not uncommon for your torrent client statistics to be different from our tracker statistics. There are many possible reasons for this and, most of the time, there is nothing TeamOS can do about it. Here are some things to think about. YOUR UPLOADING WILL NOT IMMEDIATELY APPEAR ON OUR...

www.teamos.xyz

Tutorials - How to Improve Your Ratio

The site rules say: "You must maintain an overall ratio of at least 0.4. You must seed every torrent you download, including freeleech torrents, for at least 72 hours. If you break either of these rules then you will receive a warning and you will not be able to download any more torrents."...

www.teamos.xyz

 

[canton]

Yes, track server will announce all but it's up to the torrent client to decide (mostly based on its own settings).

Thank you Megaraider for your interesting response.

If it's the torrent client deciding based on it's *own* settings, I wonder if there's anything we can do about those settings to turn torrent traffic to our favor.

Thanks again Megaraider.

 

[canton]

@amitverma1113
Read these tutorials:

Tutorials - So You Think Your Stats Are Wrong

It is not uncommon for your torrent client statistics to be different from our tracker statistics. There are many possible reasons for this and, most of the time, there is nothing TeamOS can do about it. Here are some things to think about. YOUR UPLOADING WILL NOT IMMEDIATELY APPEAR ON OUR...

www.teamos.xyz

read it. eye-opener. now i can behave.

thanks much for your time chuck.

 

[Cyler]

This issue has to do with how torrents work internally but also how the internet works with regard to torrents. I will try to keep this simple as its fairly technical:

Your internet speed is one part of the equation of the total speed we have, distance from the destination being the second, and number of hops or intermediate nodes between us and the destination the third.

Torrents use a way of selecting who is going to connect to who, called Biased Neighbor Selection and as you guessed, that method prioritizes the people that are near you or even have the same ISP as you, compared to the people that are far. Now you probably wonder why, and here is where the internet part comes in. Do a speed test with Ookla. Choose a server near your physical location. Now choose a server from any other country and other continents. Try both North and South America, try Africa, and various countries in Europe I think there is a server in both the north and south poles. Write down and notice the difference in speed and ping as your test location gets further away.

The torrent protocol knows what you will see above too. That the further you are, the less speed and the more delay you will have so when it picks who will get connected to who, it always prioritizes people that are near. We also need to remember that this affects the leech peers and not the seed peers as those are the ones that request. Seeds are there only to give upon request.

Another issue is that torrents will often pick not just the closer, but the faster ones, and sadly seed boxes as wisely @MniawY said are way faster than most of us are. You have a 100Mbit upload which is great, but seedboxes can peak at 2.5Gbit with a medium of 500Mbit+.

Finally and to close this, a lot of leechers and seeders have way wrong settings for torrenting, especially for a great number of torrents. For example, the maximum number of connections is often left at the default of 6, which means only 6 people can connect at any given second and so the more torrents you have the less traffic they get per torrent. If you have 3 torrents and 6 connections that is 2 connections per torrent, if you have 30 torrents that is 0.2 connections per torrent and if you host 300 that is 0.02... you get the picture. Similarly for a leech, it will only connect to 3-4 other pers and neglect the rest. Check your own image for that and see that the seeds are way more than the leeches in all of those torrents. Some even have 0 leech and 100 seeders, and some another has 2 leeches and 378 seeders... Offer and demand is a cruel things sometimes.

That is why we give the seed bonuses too (1 point per hour per torrent) to help with such situations.

Now as for a solution, sadly you have to try the popular new torrents and not only the freeleech. New torrents most often, have more leeches and so more chances to upload, but that will last for 2-3 days and then... back to zero, but at least you will have a chance to upload.

I don't think there is more to add to this so... time to close the thread?

Hope it helped.

 

[choli]

I am sharing full torrent image.

Please tell if port isn,t forwarded then why some torrents upload data and some dont.

check the last torrent as it uploaded a big 4.75gb data.

So did your port forwarded or not?

And you misunderstood about port forward..

Forwarding your port will get you a higher chance to become connectable to you.
Hence when you become connectable the easier someone connects to you.
If your port isn't forwarded, it will becoming harder connects to you.

Even your port isn't forwarded, you'll get upload credit but not as many if your port forwarded.
Because your connection becoming harder to connect with someone and your connection becoming lowest priority among other.

CMIIW

And don't forget about seed Bonus Points.
You'll get BP even you're not getting upload credit by seeding.

 

[canton]

This issue has to do with how torrents work internally but also how the internet works with regard to torrents. I will try to keep this simple as its fairly technical:

Your internet speed is one part of the equation of the total speed we have, distance from the destination being the second, and number of hops or intermediate nodes between us and the destination the third.

Torrents use a way of selecting who is going to connect to who, called Biased Neighbor Selection and as you guessed, that method prioritizes the people that are near you or even have the same ISP as you, compared to the people that are far. Now you probably wonder why, and here is where the internet part comes in. Do a speed test with Ookla. Choose a server near your physical location. Now choose a server from any other country and other continents. Try both North and South America, try Africa, and various countries in Europe I think there is a server in both the north and south poles. Write down and notice the difference in speed and ping as your test location gets further away.

The torrent protocol knows what you will see above too. That the further you are, the less speed and the more delay you will have so when it picks who will get connected to who, it always prioritizes people that are near. We also need to remember that this affects the leech peers and not the seed peers as those are the ones that request. Seeds are there only to give upon request.

Another issue is that torrents will often pick not just the closer, but the faster ones, and sadly seed boxes as wisely @MniawY said are way faster than most of us are. You have a 100Mbit upload which is great, but seedboxes can peak at 2.5Gbit with a medium of 500Mbit+.

Finally and to close this, a lot of leechers and seeders have way wrong settings for torrenting, especially for a great number of torrents. For example, the maximum number of connections is often left at the default of 6, which means only 6 people can connect at any given second and so the more torrents you have the less traffic they get per torrent. If you have 3 torrents and 6 connections that is 2 connections per torrent, if you have 30 torrents that is 0.2 connections per torrent and if you host 300 that is 0.02... you get the picture. Similarly for a leech, it will only connect to 3-4 other pers and neglect the rest. Check your own image for that and see that the seeds are way more than the leeches in all of those torrents. Some even have 0 leech and 100 seeders, and some another has 2 leeches and 378 seeders... Offer and demand is a cruel things sometimes.

That is why we give the seed bonuses too (1 point per hour per torrent) to help with such situations.

Now as for a solution, sadly you have to try the popular new torrents and not only the freeleech. New torrents most often, have more leeches and so more chances to upload, but that will last for 2-3 days and then... back to zero, but at least you will have a chance to upload.

I don't think there is more to add to this so... time to close the thread?

Hope it helped.

well, a mouthful for a newbie me.

i'll keep a copy for long digestion.

thanks much for your valued time, cyler.